Monday, March 17, 2014

THANKS: But No Thanks

Happy St. Patrick's Day.

You could probably make a few bucks wagering with certain people who are confident that Saturday was St. Patrick’s Day. Wrong. Pay up. 

Our 19th district received a little help from other districts as Wrigleyville's antics rolled into early Sunday morning. (Sunday's reinforcements were minimal, especially when compared to the small army that was brought in to restore peace in the hours following last year's Pride Parade.)

This brief exchange took place as the outside units were sent back to their districts at 3:07 Sunday morning:
19th district captain: You can cut the outside units. Thank them very much for their help….and there are 9 openings [in the 19th district] if you’d like to [transfer] in.
Outside unit: Not after what we saw tonight.
Outside unit 2: The answer is heeeelll no.
19th district unit: It’s only like this for the next 7 months.
Outside unit 3: You guys can keep it.
Well, at least the captain made the ask. There are currently 12 positions available for transfers in our district, which is now staffed by 126 fewer officers than in October 2011. That's 27%.

26 comments:

  1. Instead of trying to get an increase in police maybe we should push for a 27% reduction in bars, starting with those whose names keep coming up. I am sure the proper inspection of those premises hold sufficient code violations to accomplish this. Also, overcrowding is a hazard in the event of fire, so the number of customers should be restricted to safe levels and enforced. Violations could result in immediate closing of the bar for a period long enough that bar owners start self-enforcing these laws.

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  2. manpower wouldn't be an issue if the Cmdr would hold his plain clothes officers accountable, or send them back to the watch. These guys/gals come in with anemic numbers, nothing of which is anything meaningful, work half shifts, do not respond to radio assignments when asked, and feel entitled to do squat while collecting a nice pay check from the City (us). The Tact Lt. has the Cmdr convinced he knows what's best for his troops. The reality is he is part of the problem, not the solution. Back when I started going to CAPS meetings, I was told these guys are "elite" and do much behind the scenes…but over the years, I have been paying attention to my scanner and my window, and they really don't do much of anything to solve our issues…the "elite" tag is complete BS. And the scary part? There are 5 teams of these do nothings in 019 since the merge. 5!!!! Even the districts in Garfield Park and Austin only have 3!!! I asked these questions not all that long ago at the CAPS meeting for my beat, and Sgt C (although very nice) was very sheepish in addressing this and I do not know why! If there are 9 openings, Captain, take 9 of these "elites" and put them on the watch until those spots are completely filled! The primary task of the 019 is answer calls for service, not to get in your car at 11 am, eat lunch, hide from the radio, work out, and then go home at 3pm. Everyone is being asked to do more with less, why aren't they? Why are these "elite" officers being given the free pass to essentially not do their job? I just don't get it. And while the overall numbers of officers go down, these lethargic teams stay fully staffed. Unreal. Thanks for your time.

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    1. You are being just silly, and you sound more like a cop who really wants to be on tact and can't be. Nice try. Folks facts are facts, in any district tact teams account for around 50 percent of all the arrests in the district. It's what they do. In this district it's more like 60-65 percent. As to the 5 team issue, this blog has pointed out, one is used as an entertainment team, one is now used as a burglary team, that leaves three just like anyone else. And for clarity, I am NOT nor do I wish to be, a tact guy or gal... I'm just being honest

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    2. There is only 1 entertainment team now that is understaffed. And when they do work they don't stay long and they avoid Clark st. They are also off on Fri and Sat nights which makes no sense. They should be in a Sun Mon day off. Just wait til Cubs start. 19 will need more than 1 small went. Team

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    3. Again the above post is just filled with untruths. Understaffed? Well sure but the whole district is understaffed. Even if the team in question is fully staffed at ten people that is not enough to regulate Clark street. The team is never seen? I saw them yesterday working, I saw them the day prior too, maybe you need to look harder. Off on Fridays and Saturdays? When their day off group rotates to those days sure, but a set Sunday Monday day off group? First off the superintendent forbade this practice, second who would stay on a team with those parameters? Stop trying to stir things up on a blog with untruths

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  3. Y'know what's hysterical? When every person who shills for the Cubs says "if the Cubs left the neighborhood, tha neighborhood would die". Actually, we'd shed about 20 excess bars, crime would drop, property values for residential would go up in the former "patying" areas, and the residents would be a happier lot altogether.

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    1. The Cubs had nothing to do with this mess. Wrigley filed has been there long before any of us were here, and there's never been this sort of trouble until very recently. the problem isn't the cubs, the problem is the Clark Street bar owners shifting their customer base from neighborhood people to the suburban and college crowd that frequents Division Street. There's been a shift in the demographic that patronizes those places in recent years.

      The bar owners are doing turn away business. It would be a real fight to try and get them to make any changes.

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    2. The Cubs have responded by building out their day-of-game operations to capitalize on the party atmosphere and take some business from the bars. In no way do I blame them for wanting a bigger piece of the pie, but to say they have nothing to do with it is a bit off.

      Arne Harris showing large-breasted "hotties" between every inning and the Cub Fan Bud Man campaign? Oh, yeah, those are on the Cubs, too. They helped create this whole thing as much as, and probably more than, any other entity.

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    3. No it wasn't a "cubs thing" this weekend BUT its the same shitheads who come from the SUBURBS to attend games and stay afterward to make our neighborhood the special place it is from April to October. I say Brad Stephens needs to sweeten that ROSEMONT property so R icketts and Co. pull up their tents and move that drunken obnoxious circus out. to the land at the end of the runways, peace bru-tha.

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  4. Why don't you give the Tact Lt a call? I'm sure he would like to hear from you. Or are you a CPD officer who was rejected for the tact team?

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    1. I am not CPD I am a citizen who has made simple observations. I have called numerous people from alderman all the way down to the neighborhood people. Doesnt matter. Some are just entitled pricks who feel they have a right to do nothing. I have called the tac Lt and it goes no where. In fact, the response is very similar to the one written above. More hot air.

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    2. You called the alderman, the tact lt, other neighbors and your issues haven't been addressed yet? Maybe the hot air you feel is emanating from your own person?

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  5. I'm trying to understand the exchange you quoted -- are we to interpret the comments as officers from other districts don't want to work in the 019 because they have to work much harder than in their own districts? Are officers in other districts lazy?

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    1. No, it has nothing to do with lazy, it has to do with having to deal with drunken foolishness in this era of "everyone is a winner". Back in the day drunken foolishness got you thrown into the drunk tank for the night and maybe a slug from the local beat cop. In today's bizzaro world the drunken fool is taken to the hospital where we all pay the detox bill and if the beat cop uses force they get suspended, fired or jailed. Who wants to sign up for that?

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    2. I do!!!!! I work at the local medical facility/inebriate reception center and it is nothing short of a good time. The police have found its too expensive , in lawsuits from otherwisecouldn't give a shit relatives, to deal with these jagoffs so us hospital public safety types get to deal with them. Definitely makes a Saturday night/game night/ big lakefront event night fly by. Plus it gives us plenty of opportunities to practice our "non violence crisis intervention" skills.......til some skidmark tries to swing/bite/kick/spit/eliminate in our direction, then its ".Lets get ready to RUMBLE! !!!!!!!" Oh yeah, good times.

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  6. It's unbelievable how many people are on board with this absurd "shut down the bars in Wrigleyville/Boystown" notion. Yes, instead of addressing the root causes of our neighborhood's recent increase in crime, let's focus on shutting down local businesses. Perhaps the neighborhood can become desolate strips of vacant storefronts like Uptown and Edgewater to the north? Then gangs can move in and start warring over their newly minted drug turf!

    Just stop with this stupidity. It ain't gonna happen.

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    1. Are you saying the gangs haven't moved in yet? They have, and will shut down the local businesses before the "evil" residents do.

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    2. Yes, I am. If you think gangs have moved in to Wrigleyville/Boystown, you've got a lot to learn. Several local entities we're all familiar with ARE drawing gang members and other undesirables to the area, however.

      Again, look to Uptown and Edgewater for examples of actual gang problems.

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  7. THANK YOU, Turbo. It is a silly and shortsighted notion and it is absolutely not going to happen. The area has been like this since I moved in back in 2003, it was like this before then, and it will stay like this, particularly with the Cubs expanding the "ballpark neighborhood" atmosphere even more on gamedays in the coming seasons. Closing bars is a kneejerk reaction not getting to the root causes of anything.

    This blog does a great amount of good. I do wish we could refrain from "solutions" that make us all look ridiculous.

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    1. No problem. I recently moved back to Wrigleyville after spending 7 years in Edgewater, where I was actively involved in reporting on the neighborhood's issues. The lack of understanding here is astounding at times. The "solutions" you refer to are misguided pipe dreams at best.

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    2. Agreed. It's akin to suggesting covering up the stench from a backed up sewer drain by spraying air freshener constantly instead of fixing the clog.

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    3. We agree.

      The one possible up side to such suggestions is the fact that politely asking businesses, agencies, and — let's be honest — most individuals to change their behavior rarely gets results.

      Most often, pursuing an extreme, unfavorable measure will get their attention. At that point, a more moderate, mutually-beneficial outcome can be reached.

      That said, as you know, CWB has never advocated for the "dry" movement nor the idea of reducing service hours.

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  8. Lets get on track people... Nothing, I repeat NOTHING is going to change unless it has to.( Major incident). So you can complain, blog, or go to beat meetings. I repeat , nothing is going to change! Police will do what they do, short handed. Bars will do what they do until "IT" happens! Could be tomorrow, could be 10 years from now, but nothing will change until. And it will only get worse quickly until it does change. So vent on this blog, complain to the worthless alderman, and complain about the police to no avail.

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    1. There's a thing called voting. I highly recommend it. Please spare me the "fix is in on the election" rant.

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    2. We will vent on this blog until we do avail. and We Will. thank you

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  9. For anyone who thinks disciplining or not disciplining bars is avoiding the real problems please check out an article on crime and bars at http://www.popcenter.org/problems/assaultsinbars/print/. It offers some interesting insights, some of which are contrary to views I have had on the subject.

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