Thursday, December 26, 2013

MANPOWER SHORTAGE?: What Manpower Shortage?

There are currently 8 police officers protecting the southwest corner of Water Tower Place. That's about half of the manpower on the streets of our entire district Sunday morning. 

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  1. I will be the first to say this is really annoying to see. While I understand the need to make tourist feel safe, I wonder what the ratio is of tax dollars paid by tourist (hotel. Sales, etc) versus the taxes paid by citizens (property, parking tags, etc). Maybe there is some revenue rationale behind putting priority in tourist areas or maybe it is just a smoke-in-mirrors effort for perception to visitors. Regardless of the answer, I feel the city's first priority should to protect its citizens.

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    1. Wow, I should have bought in that neighborhood.. that way I wouldn't have to worry about property taxes and city sticker fees.

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    2. If property taxes and city sticker fees are a concern for you, you can't afford to live at Water Tower Place.

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  2. I'm assuming this deployment of resources to the Magnificent Mile is a direct result of that area having an Alderman that is not incompetent (do you hear that, Tom Tunney?)

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    1. I'm sure this is for Chicago's "image" purposes whether that area had an alderman or not.

      The Mag Mile attacks have made MSM news, not much so for other areas of Chicago.

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  3. They're not 18th district - they're either Bureau of Patrol or "Organizational Development" cops. Our 18th district cops are pretty useless if you can find them, and if you do, you'll wish you didn't call them in the first place.

    And saying that Fioretti or Reilly is more competent than Tunney... well, that's like a tallest midget contest.

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    1. I don't think muggers care what TYPE of cop they are. If they see them, they go elsewhere...like Lakeview.

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    2. Reilly is an Emanuel kiss up. Fioretti is a real man. And the last commenters comments are ridiculous.

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    3. Fioretti is a good Alderman, so good that the powers that be pretty much eliminated his ward as we know it. Reilly is an empty suit.

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  4. As the owner of a condo in Water Tower Place, I just want to say, "Nah nah nah nah nah."

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  5. You guys wait until 5 Jan when the new transfer to police districts take place. 19th had 8 openings. But 2 are already lost to promotions so the net gain now is 6. And there are about 2 dozen who requested transfers to other places. By Jan the district's manpower could be even less than what it is today.

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    1. 5 leaving for sure...1 promoted. That doesn't include any from midnights who will be leaving also.

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    2. That should have read 2 promoted. Plus the 5 confirmed leaving. That's 7. The district is a +1 right now....not including midnites. It'll all be know by late tomorrow afternoon, early evening.

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    3. Only 5? I can name off the top of my head at least 10 in addition to the 2 promotions...

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    4. The five confirmed that I know. Theoretically, there could be as many as 16 leaving, which would make it a -8. We shall see tonight.

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    5. The POs trying to bid out might not be going anywhere depending on their years on and districts they bid for. Frankly, better off without some the crybabies on midnights.

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    6. Yes, get rid of the cry babies, who are useless... But at least they show up to work. Now there will be even less on midnights, even longer RAPs, even less time off for the working police.... Even higher attrition rates... Who is running this show (and I don't mean poor volgarus)

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    7. Tiny Dancer is running the show. Did you see the transfer orders for successful bidders wasn't released by order of McPuppet? Could it be because some districts that finally had openings are showing a net loss? 012 is one. Guess we'll see on Monday. BTW, anyone that thinks any alderman in this city has any say over the # of officers in a district is living in the past. This Mayor could give a rat's ass about what residents or an alderman wants.

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  6. I will state that as much as I want more police for Lakeview, it has to be pointed out that Nichigan Ave area has had similar problems as Lakeview over the past several years. Water Tower Place, especially, has had a "thug problem", so I am glad that there police there, at least. But yes we do need more police in Lakeview.

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  7. Oh, there are LOTS and LOTS of police there. 3 more were on the northwest corner of Water Tower Place. 10 officers on one side of one (short) city block.

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  8. If it was warmer outside, there'd be even more sitting at the park across from Tavern on Rush. Always a relaxing post for numerous cops in the summer.

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  9. Were all 7 officers in the posted photo told to stand in that one area? This seems like a frustatingly frequent sight, especially downtown. Lots of police chatting on one corner but not an officer to be found for many blocks around that area. Is this "show of force" a tactical decision or just lazy policing? I'm sincerely curious.

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  10. I took the 151 Sheridan today. From Oak to the the Tribune building I counted 53 police officers.

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  11. The officers you see on Michigan Av are mostly recruits assigned to what's called "The Window Detail". They're just out of the academy, haven't even been trained in the districts, are not completely contractually covered, can have their hours adjusted, days off switched at a moments notice, and earn straight time in the event of OT. They cannot work alone. They are not assigned to the 018 district, the alderman had nothing to do with it. It happens every year, and when the holidays are over, those recruits will go to districts to train, and eventually will end up assigned to the south and west sides.

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    1. I would assume that a group of 8 of them would be qualified to walk by the window details on Halsted to show a police presence. I could do that with a group of 8 without any training.

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    2. Michigan Av is a tourist spot. Halsted St is not. You bring families down to shop on Michigan Av...not the bars on Halsted or Clark.

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  12. There will always be Police where the tourist and convention goers go. So if you plan on going out for a evening I would go out in those areas and avoid Clark Street and Halsted Street. It's a lot less likely you will be mugged. Even Wicker Park has more Police another fine destination for an evening out. Wicker Park is even getting a new hotel.

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  13. Yes, it's obviously a municipal priority to provide a strong deterrent show of force in an established tourist/family destination like North Michigan Avenue.

    That doesn't, however, warrant the disproportionate shortage of police in the 19th District. The 19th district alone, one of 23 police districts in the city, is carrying one-sixth (1/6th) of the burden of under-staffing borne by the entire Chicago Police Department.
    So, while the entire CPD is down approx. 600 sworn police personnel from 2011 staffing levels, the 19th district alone is down 100-plus sworn officers from 2011, according to CPD data.
    This untenable situation is detailed more fully in the upcoming Inside-Booster newspaper.

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    1. There are 22 districts.
      If you haven't already figured it out, it's an end-run around the political hot topic if police redeployment. For years, Daley toyed with the idea, but the alderman in the decent neighborhoods (and the citizens too), were dead-set against it, and Daley knew it. Enter Rahm and McPuppet. Combine the districts, never assign anyone there, never replace the people who transferred out, send any and all new recruits to the south and west sides, and...poof!! you have taken manpower from the taxpaying, decent, north and northwest side neighborhoods, and sent it all to the south and west side areas where certain segments of the population behave much much worse.

      The right openings in 019 is the first time that has happened since the merge in Mar 2012. Over 100 p.o.'s and sgts have retired, been promoted, or transferred out. No new recruits have been assigned in about 4+yrs...in the old 019 or old 023. Now, the district is down about 25% in manpower and the predators are running rampant. Crime is UP everywhere. It's the way the numbers are manipulated by this administration. Tunney, Cappelman, and all the other alder-goofs are powerless when it comes to this, because this is the way Rahm wants it.

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    2. Stupid autocorrect... "...hot topic OF police redeployment..."

      "...the EIGHT openings in 019..."

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  14. Wrong wrong......Emanuel controls the manpower. Since Tunney, cappleman and Pawar are all Emanuel ass kissing aholes they will say nothing because they do not want to offend his majesty. Emanuel and all his cline aldermen have to go along with McCarthy and Voulgaris who needs to go to Englewood,

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  15. Well, here's the manpower numbers after the transfer. Maybe the good folks at this blog can bump it up to the top. 8 openings in 019, 13 people transferred out (-5), and two promoted, for a -7. On January 5, the district will have 7 less people than it did on Saturday.

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    1. Thank you for the updated info. Your service to the community is very much appreciated. Thank you.

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