Monday, October 07, 2013

STARTING BLOCK: Tunney Wants Neighbors To Form Clubs

44th ward Alderman Tom Tunney is hoping that area neighbors will form block clubs, akin to neighborhood watch groups, in an effort to combat crime, according to a DNAinfo report this afternoon.
Tunney wants the ward to form at least five new block clubs by the end of the year, he said in an email to constituents.
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The idea behind the push is that neighbors will share information, watch each other's property and alert police of any suspicious activity. 
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As of Monday, Lakeview had zero block clubs registered with the city police, but [a Tunney representative] said several blocks have shown an interest in forming such groups. Already, Stratford Place has planned it first block club meeting for Oct. 22, according to Belmont Harbor Neighbors.
Read the full story at DNAinfo.

Learn more about the block club concept at the Chicago Police Department's web site.

39 comments:

  1. Right, let the constituents do the work. Will Tunny give a tax rebate for the work the City should be doing with our money?

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    1. God forbid you actually lift a finger to help your neighborhood, just complain that someone else should do it for you

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  2. Cornelia's and Elaine's Against Armed Robberies Saving Giraffe Statues Unite! Take Back Boystown is so 2009.

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  3. Anonymous said...
    Right, let the constituents do the work. Will Tunny give a tax rebate for the work the City should be doing with our money?

    Monday, 07 October, 2013
    Because block clubs are beneath you or you don't like your neighbors?

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  4. In 1968 in the Gresham neighborhood my grandma was part of a block club. Then she moved to Beverly, then MT.Greenwood, then Palos

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  5. Maybe CPD will give Prince Tunney a horse to ride around the hood so he looks tough and in command lol.

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  6. Great plan. My unarmed neighbors and I can roam the streets between midnight and 6 am fighting crime. In some societies, people pool their money, and pay, train and arm these groups. In first-world nations, they give them cars, radios and uniforms as well. Something to aspire to.

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  7. Some of you obviously have no concept of what a block club does. If you have a problem with Tunney or the police, fine, but don't outright dismiss an idea that's worked well in similar areas throughout the city.

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  8. We have lots of block clubs in Edgewater. They address other issues besides crime, like traffic and parks. They have organized positive loitering on problem streets and picked up litter at neighborhood beaches. I think they've helped in pushing back the thugs from the Thorndale L and Granville L stations. Maybe if 100 people from a block club showed up at the Belmont L at midnight every weekend taking pictures of the hoodlums, the thugs might, well, actually leave. They've overrun your neighborhood because YOU'VE let them. Neighborhood watch really does work. BTW, I can tell most of you must be renters. Renters always expect someone else to do something for them... someone else will pick up the garbage, someone else will shovel the snow, someone else will call the police... yep. Renters.

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  9. As a police officer, I've always liked seeing those blocks. The residents are alert and informed. Their doors are well lit, Thety keep their foliage trimmed. they make sure their address is clearly visible in the front and back, so first responders can easily find them. They are willing to get involved, be witnesses, court advocates, They get to know their beat officers and vice versa. They show their investment in their community. Give it a try, won't you?

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  10. Tunney: This idea is as way too little as you are. And way too late.

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  11. I'm definitely in the camp of having no idea what a block club does (I'm also definitely in the camp of people who actually work to improve this area). What does it do, and how specifically will it help bring crime down?

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  12. Someone must be talking to Gary Albrecht.

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  13. After my experience going to the Lakeview Citizen's Council board meeting last July (where they referred to Tunney as "Tommy") I've come to the conclusion that neighborhood or block groups should be formed and run with no affiliation with official figures. I think constructive relationships should be fostered, but it's the job of neighborhood groups to look out for the best interests of the neighbors, and that doesn't always coincide with what's on the agenda for city officials.

    Start a block group, start a neighborhood group, but do it on your own and maintain your independence.

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  14. If your going to do it the Chicago way don't forget your sign.http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5549/9665697755_625fb997a3_z.jpg

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  15. Anonymous said...

    Some of you obviously have no concept of what a block club does. If you have a problem with Tunney or the police, fine, but don't outright dismiss an idea that's worked well in similar areas throughout the city.
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    ANd which communities has it worked for? Please supply us details and stats on the proven efficiency. If these really work, why did they not bring these up YEARS ago? I know of only one person who talks about these at CAPS. Not convinced.

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  16. Question: What happens when these block clubs stay vigilant, see a crime in progress, call 911, then have to wait 90 minutes for a police unit to show up? What is the point?

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  17. Many of us ARE trying very hard to make positive changes in our neighborhood, and yet we are hampered at every turn by an Alderman who continues to claim that crime is down and there isn't a crime problem to be concerned about. We're happy to "lift a finger to help our neighborhood," but it would be FANTASTIC to have an Alderman who's willing to do the same. Telling us to form block clubs is NOT doing anything active to help the problems in the neighborhood/ward.

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  18. I work 40 plus hours a week, pay highest taxes in Chicago. I don't need to run my neighborhood or be involved in my neighborhood beyond being a law abiding citizen. About the time I do get involved via taking crime into my own hands I would be put in jail for shooting a criminal. Besides just listen to the scanner cops can't even answer serious calls citywide. Calling 911 won't stop anything because the cops won't come because we don't have enough cops. It's simple Mayor Rahm and Tunney need to address the real problem. Hire about 4000 more cops citywide. I am sick and tired of all these PR stunts. How are clubs going to stop anything? Vote these hacks out!

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  19. My block is forming the Throw Out Tunney Club.

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  20. "We have lots of block clubs in Edgewater. They address other issues besides crime, like traffic and parks. They have organized positive loitering on problem streets and picked up litter at neighborhood beaches. I think they've helped in pushing back the thugs from the Thorndale L and Granville L stations. Maybe if 100 people from a block club showed up at the Belmont L at midnight every weekend taking pictures of the hoodlums, the thugs might, well, actually leave. They've overrun your neighborhood because YOU'VE let them. Neighborhood watch really does work. BTW, I can tell most of you must be renters. Renters always expect someone else to do something for them... someone else will pick up the garbage, someone else will shovel the snow, someone else will call the police... yep. Renters."

    Very accurate and surely correct.

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  21. How about hiring more cops?? Someone please get this idiot out of office - let him go back to baking buns.

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  22. Anonymous said...
    If your going to do it the Chicago way don't forget your sign.http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5549/9665697755_625fb997a3_z.jpg
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    Talk about curb appeal!

    Thank you, Anonymous

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  23. "We have lots of block clubs in Edgewater. They address other issues besides crime, like traffic and parks. They have organized positive loitering on problem streets and picked up litter at neighborhood beaches. I think they've helped in pushing back the thugs from the Thorndale L and Granville L stations. Maybe if 100 people from a block club showed up at the Belmont L at midnight every weekend taking pictures of the hoodlums, the thugs might, well, actually leave. They've overrun your neighborhood because YOU'VE let them. Neighborhood watch really does work. BTW, I can tell most of you must be renters. Renters always expect someone else to do something for them... someone else will pick up the garbage, someone else will shovel the snow, someone else will call the police... yep. Renters."

    When I think of the Top 10 neighborhoods I admire and would like to live in, Edgewater isn't even in the Top 20.

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  24. "As a police officer, I've always liked seeing those blocks. The residents are alert and informed. Their doors are well lit, Thety keep their foliage trimmed. they make sure their address is clearly visible in the front and back, so first responders can easily find them. They are willing to get involved, be witnesses, court advocates, They get to know their beat officers and vice versa. They show their investment in their community. Give it a try, won't you?"


    Ok - we'll do this -- now, when we call 911..will there be a RAP, will we need to wait 3 hours? Are we supposed to tie up the hoodlums? Hold guns to them> Handcuff? What?

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  25. I rent. I've rented in this neighborhood for years. I am also very involved in my neighborhood: supporting my local businesses over faceless corporations, taking my recycling to the Notebaert because my management company doesn't provide recycling services (although they are supposed to), attending CAPS meetings, being aware of loitering and calling the police on suspicious characters, and working with my neighbors to try and improve the crime problems that keep increasing in the neighborhood.

    I take great offense to the dismissal of renters as useless, uncaring, and uninvested residents. Just because I may not be able to buy in this neighborhood doesn't mean that I don't care about the neighborhood or that I should be dismissed as "less than." I love this neighborhood and would like to live here for a good long time, and I'm invested in working toward everyone who lives here being able to live here safely.

    Please don't make such harsh generalizations - it's rude and thoughtless.

    Also, please note that I have no problem whatsoever stating my name and points of view, and not hiding my comments behind a handy Anonymous tag. Hmph.

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  26. CWB I think this is an important thread and we see the reason why wrigleyville and boystown have fallen so fast. We have a whole bunch of people who came here willing to pay taxes and then sit back and do nothing. Several comments here show that. Pathetic! I work over 40 hours a week, I take my kids to school am active in their lives, work out 5 days a week, go to school 2 days a week all while paying my taxes AND being involved in my community. I have elderly neighbors, I mow their lawn for them, I keep watch on my neighbors properties and my own. I personally have gone out and met my beat officers on all three watches and know them by their first names. It's really not that hard to do, it just takes a little effort

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    CWB I think this is an important thread and we see the reason why wrigleyville and boystown have fallen so fast. We have a whole bunch of people who came here willing to pay taxes and then sit back and do nothing.
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    No the reason it has fallen so fast is because we don't have enough police officers period. Rahm and Company has moved them to other neighborhoods. And people are coming to our neighborhood because they know we are law abiding citizens and easy targets. In other neighborhoods where these people come from chances if they mug someone they will get shot or at least stabbed. I am tired of being blamed for the problems because I don't have any interest in being involved in a block club. Block clubs are condo meetings mostly pain and no gain. Is that you Tunney posting how it wrong for us that just expect our taxes to pay for Police.

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    1. No I'm not Tunney I'm a patriotic American who understands that you need to work for security and not expect others to do it for you. Yes my taxes pay for police, maybe they could catch a few robbers if they weren't out there answering noise disturbances or riding on people passed out drunk. Maybe if regular people would step up and show a presence in their neighborhood then the police could push away the big stuff.

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  28. After reading these comments, perhaps this site should be called Crybabies in Wrigleyville and Boystown.

    Block clubs don't take the place of police. They are a way for neighbors to get to know each other and be each other's "Mrs. Kravitz" -- ask any burglar or robber what keeps them out of an area -- NOSY NEIGHBORS. If they see people on the street, talking with each other, walking their dogs, etc. they keep walking and look elsewhere.

    Call 019 and ask them when the next "Keeping it Real" session is. It features convicted criminals giving usable info. They do it as a part of their sentencing/parole. It will be an eye opener for most of you based on your comments.

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  29. Yes, the lack of police is a major, major problem in this neighborhood, but I can tell you why things have gone down hill so fast. This has always been an open-minded, welcoming, tolerant community, but that admirable quality has been distorted and twisted into "anything goes." Look at the Pride Parade. It's become an army of teenage straight girls in rainbow tutus drunk out of their minds flooding into the area. When you see surly straight guys walking around the Gay Pride Parade wearing "Show Me Your Tits" t-shirts hitting on the drunk straight girls it's safe to say the event has lost its meaning. The bars on Clark always had a neighborhood feel with the Cubs crowd hanging around for a drink after the games, but now it's the new Division Street packed with the dregs from the suburbs trashing the place. The social service organizations have lured in a dangerous element from the very worst parts of the city to clog up Halsted every night and run wild through the area. We've become the go to place to behave however you want with no repercussions. It's not the neighborhood residents causing the trouble. If you live here and complain about it then you're labeled intolerant, narrow-minded, racist or out-of-touch. You can't criticize the bar owners because their business owners after all, and they bring the cash into the neighborhood. You can't criticize The Center, etc, because, well, you can't or else. So in some regards I must agree that this is our (the residents') own fault. We should have stood up to all of this before it got out of hand and not worried about the names and accusations hurled our way.

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  30. I appreciate this site immensely but some of these comments are really upsetting, especially if they are coming from area residents. We need to focus on community building and creating a strong neighborhood alliance, as well as working with elected officials & the police. Approaching the issue of crime prevention by passively pointing fingers is unproductive and dangerously naïve. We all need to work together, and block clubs are a step in the right direction, albeit not a solution in and of themselves. And I stand with Sarah G in her commentary about blasting renters, such statements are belittling and unwarranted. Let's rally ourselves and our neighbors, not cut each other down. If anyone is interested in starting a block club on Barry Avenue, please leave a comment & I'd gladly discuss.

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  31. Anonymous TheDoctor1963 said...

    Ok - we'll do this -- now, when we call 911..will there be a RAP, will we need to wait 3 hours? Are we supposed to tie up the hoodlums? Hold guns to them> Handcuff? What?

    Doctor Doctor, Let me give you the news. The things I suggested are based upon my many years of experience. I've been the one to respond lights and siren to 911 calls and not be able to find your address either because the numbers are hidden or poorly lit or because it isnt even posted, especially in the rear off the alley. I've been the one to come to your house to take a report and discover the ladder you left in the yard now propped up to your window, the bushes that kept a burglar or robber concealed, your windows or door unlocked. I've been the one to stop your bleeding and try to find out what happened while waiting for CFD. I'm the one to find you so inebriated that you soiled yourself, vomited all over yourself, and have you tell me that you have no idea what happened other than to know that you are missing your wallet, phone, etc. and can't remember where you live.

    With all of that said, I am not blaming you, I am asking you to help me, help yourself, and help your neighborhood.

    Now for you to respond as if you are doing me a favor to do this, and in turn ask me to stop the district from being in RAP, are you serious? Don't bite the cops on the street who are out there humping for the community.

    Don't you think WE would like more cops? Don't you think the decrease in manpower jeopardizes our safety as well? CWB has often reported of the ongoing fights in the streets in the entertainment areas. Knowing that your backup is no where in sight and a long way away or not at all when you are in the thick of it and outnumbered is as much a concern for us as the safety of your neighborhood is for you. It leads to more officers IOD (injured on duty) and as a result even less cops on the street.

    Let's work together, not against one another.

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  32. Aaron - Thanks. I totally agree that we need to quit the infighting and finger pointing, and rally together to solve the problems in our neighborhood. And I'm on Barry too, so depending where you're at on Barry, let's get that block club started.

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  33. Excellent comment, officer. Please know that the majority of us respect your service and dedication.

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  34. Aaron and Sarah, you've got it. Create a fake email account.

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  35. Instead of block clubs here's what you can do for me, the cop patrolling your neighborhood:
    - when you go out lock your doors and windows.
    - don't leave valuable visible on your car seats and console.
    - when walking, don't be talking on your phone. Stash it away. The car isn't that important.
    = in public, you can be without music from your I-pod unless jogging. I can't remember when we had a jogger robbed but people walking about with ear buds on are great victims.
    - be aware of your surroundings at all times.
    - don't drink yourself into a stupor. Go to AA if needed.
    - stop engaging strangers on the street for : the time; change; use of your phone; directions, etc.
    - make sure your building has its address prominently marked front and rear.
    Working together will alleviate these problems. We cops are doing our job; give us a hand please.

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  36. Hey Aaron, or anyone else interested in organizing a Barry block club, email me at barryblockclub@gmail.com.

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  37. The Wilton Block club has been in existence for many years - in fact we have a montly standing meeting with Ald Tunney and Cmdr Voulgaris. As you can imagine our efforts have not been fruitful in terms of lowering crime in the neighborhood. So this is another headline grabbing effort which does not have much substance behind it.

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