Sunday, October 20, 2013

DISSENTERS ON HALSTED (UPDATED): Beating, Then A Fight Outside Center On Halsted; Offenders Return To Center An Hour Later

The victim of a 3-on-1 beating called 911 from the Center on Halsted to report that his attackers were standing outside of the building. The first call at 7:05PM was followed by a flood of 911 calls that reported a fight or fights in progress at Halsted and Waveland.

After the victim and two witnesses called for help, several additional calls came in to report three "kids" fighting in the street at Halsted and Waveland.

The offenders were gone by the time police arrived.

We are pleased to report that the victim in this case, unlike those in some other cases, insisted on filing a police report.  The simple battery is logged in Chicago Police Department case #HW500731.

UPDATE October 20, 11:30PM
At 8:05PM, an hour after the first 911 calls came in, there was another development. Someone inside the Center on Halsted called 911 to report that the attackers had returned and were inside the Center.

Unfortunately, no officers were available to handle the call and it went unassigned for over 15 minutes. Eventually, someone walked into the 19th district station desk to report that the offenders had just walked into the west alley of Reta Avenue from Addison, directly across from the police station's driveway. That location, perhaps coincidentally, is the site of another local social service center, "The Crib" youth shelter.

The nearest available patrol cars at that point were more than two miles away. The offenders were not found.

According to witnesses, the offenders' descriptions are:
1-male, black, 20-25 years old, 5'11" tall, 230 pounds, short black hair.
2-male, black, 20-25 years old, 5'8" tall, 200 pounds, short black hair, wearing a black hoodie and dark blue jeans
3-male, black, 20-25 years old, 6'5" tall, 200 pounds, dark complected, short black hair, wearing a black hoodie with a stripe across the chest and dark jeans.
4-female, white, 20-25 years old, 5'6" tall, 260 pounds, long red hair in a pony tail, wearing a gray crew neck sweatshirt and gray jogging pants.

24 comments:

  1. I don't know exactly what it is that "troubles" these "troubled youth," and frankly I no longer care...but it's apparent that if the goal of Center on Halsted is to untrouble the troubled youth, they are failing miserably.

    Close that place down.

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    1. The troubled youth are troubling the rest of us formerly untroubled. The constant chaos must stop!

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  2. If the offenders are known to hang around the COH, shouldn't the Center be able to identify them? Where were the COH security guards? There is a heavy-set redheaded female who hangs out on Waveland frequently, as well as a tall thin guy who also matches these descriptions. The tall guy was pepper-sprayed by COH guards this summer. Not sure if they are the suspects but if so, they will be back.

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  3. Is there a mindset of social service providers to avoid identifying perps? I respect the forgiving approach except when other people are victimized. And then the perps should be held accountable.

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    1. It's called the "No Snitch Rule". Google it. The social service agencies follow the no snitch rule because, if they cooperated with police, the agencies would loose their "clientele" - none of the "troubled youth" would use their services, and the agencies would lose funding. No donations, no jobs. It's all about the social workers keeping their jobs rather than dealing with crime.

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    2. Bingo! Right on the money.

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  4. Perhaps the Center itself is so afraid of its "youths" that it avoids doing anything about them.

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  5. Whole Foods is just as guilty, they continue to turn a blind eye on crime in the building they occupy while charging $8.49 per pound for lettuce on a food bar. People need to boycott the entire building and be vocal until they clean up their acts.

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    1. We can say with certainty that Whole Foods calls police on a regular basis, generally for shoplifting. They detain offenders and sign complaints.

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  6. I for one can say the Center on Halsted has caused problems from the day it opened it doors. That is what happens when you get donations and grants with know real oversight.

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  7. This is all really just the scab over the malignant sore. Pick the scab and watch the money run out. These places don't care anything about the neighborhood...or the "youth." A handful of People are making a lot of money off of this, and that's what this is really about.

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  8. By theway, you need to add the report about the brawl at Chuck E Cheese, even though it's in Lincoln Park. What some folk won't fight over...

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  9. I saw this mess as I was leaving with groceries....old dude in the Center trying to just get the screaming dudes down the street toward MY home...I think everyone that works at the Center need to live next door to it to really get a vibe for the crime I wade through every night....things are going to get much much worse....ii can't believe anyone travels to get to the center and the crib...seriously, get them help in their own neighborhoods....

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  10. I've seen that morbidly obese redheaded girl repeatedly on the corner and the surrounding blocks. She can't be that hard to find...she is ALWAYS there and her size is hard to miss.

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  11. Someone who lives close by should offer to put up a nice, high zooming 24/7 streaming webcam focused right on the front doors (to the extent possible, of course). Same goes for other trouble hotspots. Get some next-door neighbors to help document these shenanigans....somehow. I know it's probably not that easy....

    Good luck.

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  12. ^^ I've thought the same thing for awhile. We can't expect COH to help identify perps so an external cam would help.

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  13. You've had a blue light camera at Halsted/Aldine & Broadway/Belmont for years now. What good are they? Obviously not a deterrent if somebody can get a gun pulled on them right underneath one of these cameras in broad daylight.

    If the police aren't monitoring their own "hot spot" cameras what are they going to do with the footage from yours?

    Am I missing something here?

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  14. I for one am very grateful that the Center exists - I go there every week and it's a terrific resource for me and many others.

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    1. What EXACTLY does the Center provide??? People say it's a "resource." A resource for what??? I have seen their website and I still don't understand. I have visited the place and it is a strange hangout in a continual state of chaos...apparently many unemployed people roaming around and looking for trouble. What does the CoH "provide" that someone can't live without? I am serious. Someone please answer. Please.

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    2. Importantly, anonymous HIV testing.

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  15. Just because the city does not make use of its cameras does not mean it was a bad idea or that citizens couldn't do it better. Do you think anyone would have been busted in the Halsted stabbing without the citizen recording it? The police recently used Ragstock's security surveillance footage to get descriptions of the perps who broke into the store last week. Then the suspects were located and arrested that night.

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    1. Thank you for your post, Anonymous. The video footage was used to make arrests in the burglary at American Apparel on Belmont.

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  16. Alex said..
    I for one am very grateful that the Center exists - I go there every week and it's a terrific resource for me and many others.
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    We agree, Alex. The Center does offer many valuable resources for the community and we look forward to it successful, neighborhood-friendly operation.

    As you may have noticed, CWB has never, ever called for the Center's closure, nor have we labeled it to be the sole reason for the problems our neighborhood is experiencing.

    Unfortunately, the Center has taken a 100% hands-off and complete denial of any responsibility whatsoever for the issues we face. At this point, their position is on the cusp of being laughable. We look forward to seeing that evolve.

    Thank you again for presenting an important viewpoint. We appreciate it.

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  17. Not Ragstock, American Apparel. Thanks for the correction, CWB.

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