Thursday, September 19, 2013

FIGHT MINISTRY?: Ruckus Brings The Cops, Again

CWB has never pushed for the elimination of certain social service programs in the area. We do, however, feel that many area service providers could be much better neighbors by ensuring that their clients conduct themselves properly and by assisting, rather than resisting our police officers.

One group that has caught a number of residents' eyes is the Night Ministry's Thursday night service call in the MB Bank parking lot at Halsted and Belmont.

Again, we think the Night Ministry provides an important service. We do not think that they are particularly good neighbors.

At least twice a month, passers-by call in fights and other incidents in the parking lot and adjacent areas on Thursday evenings, which leads to police dispatch exchanges such as this one from 9:19PM tonight:

Dispatch: Units in 19 and on citywide, getting a call of a battery in progress. 800 West Belmont. 800 West Belmont for a battery in progress. Four people fighting in the parking lot and 16 on-lookers. No further information…

Police Unit 1: All right. Got it.

Police Unit 2: We'll go.

Police Unit 3: That's probably the Night Ministry and the kids over there horsing around.

Police Unit 1: Indeed. Always.

Officers resolved the matter.

33 comments:

  1. God bless the police, god bless

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  2. For sale: Belmont real estate. Signed, your alderman.

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  3. how are they allowed to set up tables on a public sidewalk, give things away for free to low income citizens who are not from the area. then after they leave, the citizens don't leave they just walk around the area and look for more free stuff (like yours). Tonight there was around 50-75 people most from the south/west side waiting for the free stuff and causing disturbances

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  4. I like that word...ruckus.

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  5. Ok...According to the FBI, Chicago is now the murder capital of the nation! Wow..that's a statistic to be proud of! Right Rahm, Gerry and Tommy T.? I wonder how they are going to weasel their way out of this one? Of course, this is just an FBI perception...

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  6. What does night ministry have to do with that bank? Is the night ministry next to the bank?

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  7. Maybe the bank should hire private security like bank of america does.

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  8. The FBI announcement was based on flawed stats. Murder RATE is triple NYC's. Murder "capital" title was earned having Chicago just edge up past NYC in total murders.

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  9. Anonymous said...
    What does night ministry have to do with that bank? Is the night ministry next to the bank?
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    The Night Ministry uses the bank parking lot and the sidewalk east of the property for its service calls.

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  10. Anonymous said...
    how are they allowed to set up tables on a public sidewalk, give things away for free to low income citizens who are not from the area. then after they leave, the citizens don't leave they just walk around the area and look for more free stuff (like yours). Tonight there was around 50-75 people most from the south/west side waiting for the free stuff and causing disturbances
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    The groups' connection to robberies and thefts has not been definitively established. However, the ministry consistently fails to ensure that their clients gather and disperse peacefully. On one recent Thursday, a couple of 911 callers reported a "riot" as the NM clients walked and, apparently, fought its way along Belmont.

    Again, we support the NM's big picture goals. However, they do not serve the community, their clients, or themselves well by failing to address these issues.

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  11. Do we have any facts on how often police are sent to MB Bank. Bank Of America hires private security. I want MB Bank to do the same. It would be better if I had facts to support my cause. Thanks

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  12. Lawrence SummersSep 20, 2013, 9:23:00 AM

    If they are using the bank parking lot, then someone should call the bank and let them know that they're doing this and it's ruining the neighborhood. I'm not a customer of the bank, it anyone is, you should call and ask for the manager and tell them you're scared to death to use the ATM there when this occurs, and it leaves a bad taste in your mouth about the bank.

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  13. Do they have an agreement with the bank? is there a way to pressure the bank into doing something to help with that situation since it is on their property?

    I often walk that route and move to the other side of the street only to have people yell and harass me across halsted. SO OVER IT!

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  14. There are very few 'poor' people in Lakeview. A studio apartment is more than a thousand dollars per month here. The goal of the not for profit organizations is to increase the number of people in distress in our neighborhood. To have them leave their homes and journey to Lakeview to recieve free items. It's a huge effort that involves many people and groups throughout Lakeview. The Night ministry is basically thought of as a food truck for people who come to the area and then wonder around after it leaves. St. Peter's on Belmont has been supportive of or started many of the groups. See: http://www.stpeterschicago.org/page/outreach__feeding

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  15. The "youth" programs at all of those organizations should be suspended across the board until a complete investigation into their consequences on the neighborhood can be done and then regulations put in place that will ensure the integrity and safety of the area.

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  16. I don't live right around there, and I'm not trekking a full mile at night to see this disaster at the bank, but if someone who is close can video the scene when this happens and throw it up on here or link to it on a youtube channel, then it could be forwarded to the media, the authorities, the bank HQ and so on so that there is at least a real record of this continuing nonsense.

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  17. Time for the Night Crime Ministry to move. Neither the food trucks nor the Crib need to be in this neighborhood. Their patrons do not live in this neighborhood. Night Ministry is not helping this neighborhood. There is NO reason for them to be here. Time to put pressure on them and the alderman to MOVE closer to their constituents. This effort should start with the Belmont Harbor Neighbors and Triangle Neighbors groups. They can speak for the actual residents as a group.

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  18. Does MB own or lease their building and parking lot ?

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  19. Not saying problems don't happen there, of course, but I have never felt unsafe passing by the long line of people waiting there. Also, many of these comments imply that the bank doesn't know what is going ion. I am sure the Ministry has their permission.

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  20. this is from 2011 article:

    According to Bolsen, the Night Ministry has had a verbal agreement with MB Financial since the bank moved in approximately two years ago. The bus parks on the street while those waiting for services line up in a designated section of the parking lot.

    The bank's Lakeview branch manager was on vacation and not available for comment. However, Karen Perlman, chief marketing officer for MB Financial, said her company was taking resident concerns seriously.

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  21. To be clear, CWB's concern is not with providers offering services. Our concern is the provider's failure to be good neighbors.

    What happens to their clients when the NM van pulls away and their staff goes home for the night? What happens to the kids who show up for The Crib and fail to literally win a lottery to get a bed?

    It appears to us that the providers are drawing a fair number of at-risk clients at late hours, and then leaving them to fend for themselves in the neighborhood. That's not right for the clients or for the neighborhood.

    The NM also has a history of being less than co-operative with our neighborhood police officers, particularly when residents of the NM shelters are suspected of wrongdoing.

    They, and all service providers, need to be partners in resolving this neighborhood's issues. They should not feel that they are exempt because they do good deeds.

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  22. "Also, many of these comments imply that the bank doesn't know what is going ion. I am sure the Ministry has their permission."

    I'm sure they do as well, but since this seems to occur well after their posted business hours, if no one complains, then they think they're actually being a "good neighbor" and helping the community by allowing the Night Ministry to do this. If they knew what actaully happens, they might ask for some changes to make this safer, or deny them permission.

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  23. "Also, many of these comments imply that the bank doesn't know what is going ion. I am sure the Ministry has their permission."

    I have been told that the bank wanted them out of their parking lot, but The Night Ministry used it's considerable connections to bully them.

    CWB, when I met with the police I was told that The Crib is for 18 to 24 only...that's certainly not "kids." We've seen the Night Ministry salaries, and the Center's are even higher. It's all a con job. People are making a fortune at the expense of this neighborhood.

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  24. $5 million budget and $2.8 million in salaries AND another $500K in bennies? Sounds out of balance to this layman!

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  25. aahhh the night ministry...or as i like to call it, a mob attack waiting to happen. walking down belmont to my night job and passing by that area always gives me an extra "pep in my step" before work aka i haul ass through that way because it's a bunch of people up to no good over there and i'm scared i'm going to get robbed.

    on another note, the FBI named chicago "the murder capital of the united states", which was broadcasted on national CNN this evening. funny right after i watched CNN, local news, and the crooked city of chicago made an announcement, much like our district over here that "chicago crime is down by 23%". BULLSHIT propaghanda (sp?). chicago went up and up and 2013 has taken the cake and the year isn't even over!! more police! more police! more police!!!!!!

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  26. Unless the police are called everytime there's a fight here, nothing will change. All we really can do is provide pictures and video of any wrong doing on a constant basis and band together as a group to present these finding to the NM and the bank as a community meeting. Not a caps meeting.

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  27. People lets just call it as it is THIS WHOLE CITY NEEDS MORE POLICE!!! All THREE- RAHM GERRY AND TOMMY all need to go to HELL!
    HEY RAHM - F--- YOU !!!!!!!

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  28. Lookie here. No need for more cops in 019 according to McCarthy. From an email from the Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7

    Current Update
    September 20, 2013
    Recognized Vacancies

    The Department has posted recognized vacancies for the following Districts:

    District No. of Openings
    001 2
    003 5
    005 10
    006 3
    007 5
    008 2
    009 2
    010 2
    011 6
    014 4
    015 2
    016 2
    018 2
    022 2

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  29. People lets just call it as it is THIS WHOLE CITY NEEDS MORE POLICE!!! All THREE- RAHM GERRY AND TOMMY all need to go to HELL!
    HEY RAHM - F--- YOU !!!!!!!

    Friday, 20 September, 2013
    You are mistaking Chicago for a democracy were the opinion of the legislative branch matters. Only Rahm's opinion counts and he says we have enough cops in 019...well, at least if you're counting the dozen or so driving him, his wife, his kids and protecting his house we do.

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  30. Anonymous said...
    Lookie here. No need for more cops in 019 according to McCarthy. From an email from the Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7

    Current Update
    September 20, 2013
    Recognized Vacancies

    The Department has posted recognized vacancies for the following Districts:

    District No. of Openings
    001 2
    003 5
    005 10
    006 3
    007 5
    008 2
    009 2
    010 2
    011 6
    014 4
    015 2
    016 2
    018 2
    022 2
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    Hi Anonymous,

    Can you help clarify for us? If we read this correctly, you've provided a list of the number of openings the department currently has posted in the various districts. Our district, 19, isn't listed--apparently because the department will not be adding officers here. Correct? More details you could offer? Thank you for this information. We appreciate your contribution.

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  31. With all due respect CWB, the Night Ministry is not responsible for their clients once the trucks pull away and the Crib closes its doors. What are they supposed to do? Yes, they should cooperate with the police, but that doesn't solve the problem that these people are now here with nothing to do. NM DRAWS these people here. Yes we applaud their social service goals. It just doesn't have to happen in our neighborhood. NM needs to GO.

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  32. The intentions of the Night Ministry are noble, the unintended consequences are obviously not.

    Wrigleyville is starting to remind me of the film "Erin Brokovich" with the NM, COH and the CRIB playing the role of pacific gas and electric, and our visiting brothers and sisters starring as the hexavalent chromium. Thanks for bringing cancer to the neighborhood.

    Can we sue for protection? I think we need Erin Brockovich.

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  33. The President of NM appears to live in Evanston and VP of Programs appears to live in Rogers Park. If true, why would they care about damage to the neighborhood. Guess this could be the ultimate NIMBY!

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